This is the third recorded conversation I've had with Ilan Stephani. It begins with a question: there is a growing awareness of the crucial importance of embodiment in our lives, and at the same time there is a huge resistance to it. What is the nature of that resistance, and the reasons for it? The conversation is launched! Fasten your seatbelts as it careens through hidden recesses of our culture and our beings, bringing light and expression to issues that matter deeply to both of us – and hopefully to you too.